I too began to see the number 27 about one year ago, and my sightings of it have only incresed. it's very interesting to find someone else who is expiriencing the same thing, and i truly believe there is something spiritual about it.

Posted by: nicholas alcus - Dec 02, 2006 1:39 PM

The number 27 has been showing up in my life on a daily basis for 3 yrs. now and to discover that this is not something unique to only me is quite unnerving. I feel that I have reached a higher level of consciousness; a deeper state of awareness. I wonder why "it" is revealed to some and not to others. This is so fascinating to me...

Posted by: deb barnett - Dec 08, 2006 4:05 AM

All through my life, i have noticed the number 27.
For starters I was born on the 27th of September 1989 (the 270th day of the year)
my birth year 1989 adds to 27 1+9+8+9=27
my only brother Anthony was born on the 27th July 1991, when my mother was 27


I met my girlfriend on the 27th of October 2005,
her birtdate is the 227th day of the year
the number of letters in our names combined "samantha morris" and "janelle farrow" =27

I know there are probably even more 27's that i have not yet noticed, I'm going to keep looking.
thank you for your 27 observations
they are all really interesting

Posted by: Sammi Morris - Dec 10, 2006 5:41 PM

No major points.
27 Rules all. My friends and I have believed for a while now.
Cheers to you and your endeavors.

Posted by: kate - Dec 12, 2006 9:39 PM

When it was drawn to my attention that i was driving my car unregisterd, i became aware that it was registered on the 27th.
My car was bought for me by my father some time after i had been in a nasty car accident... ...on the 27th
this was the begining of my "27 sightings" as i have referred to them, ever since!
i notice them all the time, and i too thought it a somewhat quirky but auspicious re-occurance.
i was offered a promotion on the 27th, took the job and was unfairly dismissed several months later on the 27th.
When i recieved my seperation certificate from my employer, i noticed my start date was the 27th also...
I find the 27th day of the month to bring significant sometimes life altering changes, and sometimes just smaller simpler little things that make me smile!
although sometimes the things that happen are unfortunate, i believe they encourage growth, strength and awareness.
i sincerely believe there to be a significance behind the number, and i embrace it every month!

Posted by: cinta - Jan 14, 2007 4:37 AM

I came across this information during a time when my 27 sightings were very frequent, and the timing seemed to be very significant. This is just an exerpt. It goes on to talk about stonehenge, pythagoras, tibetan mythology, and some pretty esoteric numerology stuff. Search the web for some of the text below and you should find the entire article.
"It feels like there's something...but what?"

Cheers

Divine Numbers 27 and 11

The divine number 27 originates from our Creator and is implanted in earth matter to give it life. However it becomes degenerated to 24 in the process, when its vibration is slowed down, due to its lack of freedom, trapped in dense earth matter.

Each human soul has the opportunity to elevate from a level of 24, which dwells within, to 27. This enables the spirit to be "purified" and return to its afterlife abode.

Posted by: Steve - Feb 07, 2007 2:56 AM

This number is crazy i have seen it most every where. after i named one of my bands 27 it showed up on a daily baisis when i try to forget about it, it comes to me in a little way its good to know im not crazy when i see something.

Posted by: Isaac - Feb 09, 2007 4:12 PM

I have also noticed the number 27, however I found it through 9, 7 and 13.

I was born friday july 13th and 7lbs 13 Oz.
and 7 and 13 have had major roles in my life.

one day I divided 7/13 and got:0.53846153846153846153846153846154

then 13/7=1.8571428571428571428571428571429

take the repeating numbers after the decimels and in each you get: 538461 and 857142

each totals out to 27.

also the number 9 always interested me because somewhere I heard that St. John had 666 wrong in the book of revelations and that because he dreamt it (numbers sometimes appear upside down and backwards in dreams) it was supposed to be 999
9+9+9=27

also and interesting point to note, in your math section you mentioned how 2+7 is 9. but any multiple of 9 added up as individual digits will produce 9.

Posted by: symetrist  [URL] - Feb 11, 2007 10:12 PM

oh and by the way I've had interesting results with a 27hz frequency at 27db...my friend and I experiment with sound frequencies.

Posted by: symetrist  [URL] - Feb 11, 2007 10:15 PM

Im so glad other people have noticed this....I also have a thing about 27, for starters its my birthday. Some people say i notice it because im looking for it, but ive tried with other numbers and it never works. Really wish that film with Jim Carrey was about 27 instead of 23...but that would be too weird. For now though, it isnt my lucky or unlucky number, just my significant number...i dont know whether to avoid it or like it..maybe im just crazy.

Posted by: Rachel - Feb 12, 2007 7:47 PM

Mark David Chapman claimed to have killed John Lennon because he was trying to write the 27th chapter of The Catcher in the Rye (there are 26 chapters in the book.)

Posted by: Friend - Feb 22, 2007 9:49 PM

Ah yes, the 27. Great to see that you still have your page up.

Here you go...the number 27... harmless?

Posted by: mattharmless  [URL] - Feb 24, 2007 10:28 AM

wow, this website definately makes me feel not as weird. for the past five years i've seen 27 EVERYWHERE, its pretty much taken over my life. i don't know what it means, or if's its a sign of some sort but i would definately love to find out. thank you soooo much chris! this site seems liek it will help me out a bit. :)

Posted by: shannon - Feb 28, 2007 9:09 PM

me too.I found number 27 everywhere around me.But at first i think i maybe too worry about it but when i was 13 years old i often found number 27 to nowaday i'm 22 years old.

The first, i'm Thai so Birth year called "The Buddhist Era" thai is "2527".

Second, when i was a junior high school student my student number is 27 for 3 years and when i change to senior high school (change school too) my student number is 28 but my friend is resign so my student number is shift is 27 again for 3 years total for 6 years is my number is 27.

Third, My mother's home number is 27.

Forth, i live in apartment (other province mother's home)when i was a high school student every home number begin 27/.. .

fifth, manytimes i often reciept bus ticket that end number is .....27.

once, has mail to me. Sender is a fortune-teller, she tell everything about me but most surprise is she tell me lucky number is 12 and 27.

Posted by: chonana - Apr 10, 2007 12:56 PM

Myself and all other members of the band (Leicohtica) swear we are haunted by the number 27, it appears everywhere we go, and in everything we do. This is awesome to see we arent the only ones who see the number as significant.

Posted by: Chris Orchard  [URL] - Apr 29, 2007 8:54 PM

The number 27 has come up significantly this past month. I notice that whenever I have a revelation or find something new about a person or thing that I was always interested in, 27 manages to reveal itself to me. It has never bothered me until now. It pops up so much (At least once a week), that its starting to become predictable. The feeling when I see it is no longer a sense of intrigue, but now just straight up creepy.

Posted by: Davey9 - May 06, 2007 10:10 AM

it's comforting to know that others share the same '27' phenomenon. my experience goes beyond just my personal sightings, i share it with my husband. it started when we met 3 yrs ago on Feb.7 (2-7). Our son was born May 2, 2005. My husbands birthdate is Oct '20', mine is Aug '25', making him the 2 in the equation & im the 7. our home address is 2205. we started noticing the manifestation because it was too obvious already from hotel room numbers, plane seat numbers, etc. I believe there is a divine significance to all these because there is no other explanation other than too much of a coincidence. When we get into a dispute, we would see a car or a bus stop in front of us bearing the plate number 27. What freaked us the most is when we were given by an aunt (who shares the same birthday as our son) this Christmas gift -- cards that tells us who are Angels were. My husband's angel is the 2nd Archangel and mine is the 7th Archangel of God. I want to believe that 2007 is our year.

Posted by: aileen murillo - May 21, 2007 11:30 AM

OK, well I have also noticed this myself, but what's even stranger, is that in fact my birthday is 1/27, I sure hope this is just a popular number in mathamatics. Or just some strange fluke, as seen on Harmless' website Mozart's birthday is shared by me. I indeed play instruments, as a matter of fact about 4 different instruments. Guitar, Bass, Drums, and Harmonica. But out of all those instruments the only one that I find the most pleasing is the piano. I don't know if that is just coincidence or some repeating mathamatic pattern in which our minds and species repeat over and over.

Posted by: Rich K. - May 27, 2007 6:52 PM

I hope you don't mind but I used your website as a reference in something I wrote. Please read it.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=8763604&blogID=270386915

Posted by: Danielle - May 30, 2007 1:50 PM

ok yeah so i never thought other people saw this besides me, but my birthday is on the 27th. my lovers birthday is on the 27. i catch the clock every single hour im awake on 27. my name has twenty6 letters in it. on two out of 6 of my group lists on my AIM buddylist have 27 people. i see twenty seven so much. and 26 and 28 too. i feel like its a sign and somehow connected to 27 something will happen to me.

Posted by: ally - Jun 06, 2007 11:55 PM

WOW! I cannot believe I have just seen this. Coincidence?!?! I think im pretty special. I can't Levitate but I deffenately see things and if I am crazy it would be better off than the signs I keep getting. But maybe the creator is just messing with me. My birthdate is July 27 1987. All my life 7 has revolved around me and I have seen it more times than I can count. The scary part is that next year I will be going on my 7th year of highschool and my locker combination is relatively the same as my birthdate. my locker number is A388 and my lock combination is 03 23 37. The aramaic (language of christ) symbol for the number 7 looks alot like a 9. Nostradamus predicted a lot but most of all he said he saw the beasts number as upsidedown and backwards which would be a 9. Also 3 in Aramaic looks like a 7 upside down and backwards, but unfortunately a 3 looks like a 3 upside down and backwards. Lots of time spent. and I dont know why i started learning Aramaic, and no i cant heal people . yet

Posted by: Kyle Goodmurphy - Jun 08, 2007 4:06 PM

how about 11 AND 27?
i'm seeing 11 and 27 all the time. Well not just 11, but multiples of it (22,33,44,55 etc). I'm born on 11.Nov 1989. 11*11*1989=240669 (2+4+6+6+9=27).
I'm always looking at the time when its 27 past something, or 11(22,33 etc) past something. the hour 11:11 is routine now....anyone else has both 11 and 27 appearances in their life? and what do they mean??

Posted by: Dana - Jun 26, 2007 4:42 AM

I have only recently started seeing the number 27 but as I was born on the 27th I guess this is why it first made an impression. I must see the number 27 about 3 or 4 times a day and it's starting to freak me out. It started about 2 months ago when I looked out the window of a plane I was on and the number 27 was on the wing then when I got to Germany the A27 was the rd I needed to use to visit a client. I've since then been sat at tables numbered 27, been sat next to a man with 27 on the back of his t-shirt, have walked past an outdoor digital clock that pointed out that it was 4:27pm on the 27th June and was 27 degrees c, I turn my TV on in the morning at 7:27 and in work 27 is coming up all over the place. I guess I'm looking out for it more as it's freaking me out or maybe becasue I write the year so often that the 2 and the 7 are somehow inptinted in my brain and so this year I'm seeing loads of them.

Posted by: Seyon - Jul 09, 2007 10:23 AM

Its true! I havn't been seeing it lately, but I used to be completely haunted by it. It was fascinating at first but scary and annoying towards the end. Id see it EVERYWHERE, signs, tv, the clock, there would be 27 of something etc.

My father used to see 11:11 on the clock twice every day without fail. He told me about that before I started seeing the 27s

Posted by: Bill - Jul 13, 2007 12:01 AM

haha damn this is weird. my whole life 27 has been my "favorite" number. i cant even trace when it started, but i am also "obsessed" in a way with this number. I run into it frequently. I feel like every time i check my phone or my clock, its 27 after the hour. Wherever i look, it seems to show up one way or another. Until now, i havent met anyone else sharing this curiosity of the number.

Anyway, it is a very strange phenomenon. The number shows up so often in very obscure ways. I recommend seeing the movie "Pi." It tries to explain how the mind can be obsessed with a certain number; therefore i tend to not think too much about the incessant reoccurrence of the number. Maybe it has a higher meaning, perhaps not. Either way, it sure is strange.

Posted by: Christo - Jul 16, 2007 9:36 PM

Number 27 is very lucky number.My B'day is on 27/11/1985. and i think the number 27 is good for me.I think number 27 will bring gud things to me in future

Posted by: utkarsh - Jul 18, 2007 12:20 AM

Every since I can remember the number 27 has just been in my head. I though when I turned 27 something miraculous would happened, but it didn't. Along with the number 444 it just pops up a lot in my life. My girlfriends sqadcar number, her daughters soccer jersey number. It tells me when the numbers pop up that I am where I am suppose to be. It's like a guidepost.

Posted by: babbs - Jul 18, 2007 2:31 PM

hello, i am from Greece so excuse for my bad english. i tried a long time now to find something about number 27. 27 rules my life and comes up whenever it has something to say to me. I was born in 27/7/77 and my home number was 27. Maybe through a conversation we can find something. mail me if u like

Posted by: Dimitris - Jul 18, 2007 6:41 PM

Ive noticed the 27 thing too. my fav number is 18 and 27, my birthday is
8-21-87 (( 8((2))18((7)) 27 is in my ss# i met the love of my life on oct 27th we started dating feb.7th i see it alot its creepy if you look into the meanings of numbers and than see that evry great musician died at 27

Posted by: Curtis  [URL] - Jul 23, 2007 8:57 AM

I've been searching for the answer to the prevalence and apparent manifestations of the number 27 in my life for two years now. I have finally found the answer to my questions through divine intevention. This may sound weird to everyone else except to the people that share the same experience. We are called God's natural 7s (those that have the number 7 in their birth day not month, 7, 16, 25)
If the number 27 has and is still manifesting in your lives now, God is reaching out to you to serve your purpose because we are chosen to serve Him (this varies for each one). All i can say now is that we are messengers of God. The message sent to me was, "Everytime you see the number, pray. More blessings will come your way." Feel free to email me if you have questions so i can explain further. Godspeed to everyone.

Posted by: Aileen - Jul 27, 2007 4:31 AM

The fact that there are:
72 names of God
72 Angels of God and 7 Archangels
27 books in the New Testament
7 Churches in the Book of Revelation
7 Gifts of the Holy Spirit
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."
7th Day, Sabbath Day

...enough reasons for me to believe that there is a divine meaning to the manifestations.

Posted by: Aileen - Jul 27, 2007 5:06 AM

Interesting!

666 -> 6+6+6=18
999 -> 9+9+9=27

Posted by: Nima - Aug 05, 2007 12:33 AM

iam born on 27/11/1984
and iam a lucky person
and and go lucky ibelieve in future

Posted by: deepuraj - Aug 08, 2007 4:07 AM

hi birthday is on 27/11/1984
if u multiply 27*11*1984 that is 36 which means 3+6 =9
9 is associated with me always
that might bring luck to me any time

Posted by: deepuraj - Aug 09, 2007 3:59 AM

I was born on 3-27-1979. I see the number 27 everywhere, but more often than not, the number 3 is in front of it. So, it's like I'm actually seeing my birthday over and over again. I see it on the clock almost daily, license plates, addresses, and numerous other things. I'm seeing it more and more and more as time goes on. For a long time, I thought it meant something like I'd die by my 27th birthday, but now I'm 28 and all is well. My best friend moved out of state and his address was 27. Also, in many cases, I'll see 3279...some crazy stuff...very interesting.

Posted by: Adam Armstrong - Aug 23, 2007 2:41 PM

I only just started seeing the number 27 and decided to research the number to see if there was any significance to it. Turns out, from looking at this website, many people have had similar experiences. I was born on the 27th and so was my farther. Around 4 years ago I had an obsession with looking at the clock and guessing the number and almost always got it right. Like a lot of people have been saying, they see number 27 a lot when looking at the clock. Sometimes I see the number 2 and 7 more than 27. Also, the word 'Universe' has appeared a lot today. Does this mean anything to anyone? I'm planning on getting my parents to buy a lotto ticket that contain the numbers 2, 7 and 27. We'll just have to see if I become a millionaire or not...

Posted by: Sarah - Sep 07, 2007 2:52 PM

The number 27 is allways popping up in my life now. It started about a year ago.
When I was playing handball we could choose wich number we would like to have at the back of our t-shirt, i chose 6 or 7. They were both taken and all the other numbers so i got 27. One time after i came home long after that i really started thinking about this so i checked my phone and the time was 19:27 the 2nd of february 2007. I'm allways seeing the number in everything i do. Just now as we speak i looked at the time on my computer and it was... yes 19:27 . My highschool number is MH276049.
When my socail security is calcuated like this 6*5*9*1*2*2*9*9 the outcome is 87480 wich . 8+7+4+8+0 is yes 27. When i did this with my fathers social security number the 27 came out to. And with my mothers number too. So yeah thats creepy.
Sorry about my bad english. Im from Iceland.

Posted by: John - Sep 07, 2007 3:58 PM

For the last year I see number 27 all around me at least few times per day. Its the same with my birthday 12.05.1981. The sum of it is 27. I cant avoid it. I don't want to bother you with the rest of the things, but I feel very scared. Maybe its all coming from my imagination and I am happy that I am not alone.

Posted by: Galadriel - Sep 08, 2007 2:24 PM

I'm glad I found this site. I was born on 7-27 at 7:27. For as far back as i can remember, I have seen 7, 27, and 727 in everything I do. I used to think my mind was just noticing it, but its gotten a little ridiculus lately, It seems as if I never miss checking out a clock at precisely 7:27. I decided to start researching the number(s) and see what I can find out. If anyone has any info please feel free to email me. :D

Posted by: J.A.R. - Sep 09, 2007 9:45 PM

Finaly, all the time I was afraid to look up for the number 27, I was afraid because if it would turn out that I am the only one who can see this, then it were so wrong something about me, my life. But now I see, so many people who hawe happy lives can see the same. No I hawe not born in 27, and the sum is not 27 (13.02.88), but I can see it. For example, before a time I stood in a bus next too the 27th seet, and in the next time when I bought a ticket in the same bus I hoped that it wont bee the number 27, and it was not. It was 2, but my place was taken and eventually I sat in the 25th place, 25+2=27 - oh no again.
In the start I thought that it could bee a bless, like a guid, but then some thing went wrong in my life ( like it sometimes hapens with us all), and I started to dout. But now I am calm - thanks to you all.
What I got known - In Budhism and Hinduism the number 108 is wery important, as we see 108:4=27, and it is important also in maths.

Posted by: Andris - Sep 11, 2007 4:43 PM

I am from Latvia an in our folklore the number apears. For example, when you start to tell a traditional story, you say - long, long time ago, behind three time nine lands (3*9=27), and so on. look, look I hawe to write an (Input the letter/number code in the image to verify you're a human and not a spammer.), an gess what the code is 27r6aj.

Posted by: Andris - Sep 11, 2007 4:50 PM

The number 27 is very significant in my own life. I see in this blog that some people have it in their birth date. I thought it would be interesting to share my experiences with 27.

I was born on: 6.27.76 (On The Sabath)
Time: 12:07 AM
Weight: 7.3 Pounds
My Name: Does have a biblical significance, but I choose not to share it.

Posted by: Marcus - Sep 13, 2007 9:13 PM

i always see a combo of 2s and 7s usually in threes like (most common) 227, 772 etc..
the weird thing too
2+2+7=11; 1+1= 2
7+7+2=16; 1+6= 7
can anyone tell me whats going on?!
apparently i'm the only person i know that sees this

Posted by: julie - Sep 16, 2007 4:46 AM

i have been linked to the #27 forever, i just found this site today, and dicovered the following links to the #27 in my life:

my b-day: 1-27-1977, 1*27*1977=53379, 5+3+3+7+9=27.

ss#'s multiplied = 258048, 2+5+8+0+4+8=27

married on 9-27-1997, 9*27*1997=485271, 4+8+5+2+7+1=27

my youngest sons b-day: 4-24-2004, 4*24*2004=192384, 1+9+2+3+8+4=27

my deceased brother's b-day was the 27th of october, died 1-17-1998, 1*17*1998=33966, 3+3+9+6+6=27

thanks, i am now completely obsessed with 27!

Posted by: paul - Sep 20, 2007 10:49 AM

im totally the same about this, see it EVERYWHERE, and my names chris, it just appears at random times in my life, oh and my birthdays the 27th, i see it everywhere, one example is my exgirlfriends house number

Posted by: Chris  [URL] - Sep 27, 2007 11:02 AM

CERN, the giant underground laboratory on the French-Swiss border which is designed to probe the limits of physics is a facility which will collide sub-atomic particles in a 27km-long ringed tunnel. The Large Hadron Collider was due to be swithced on 27November07, but failed a test 27March07

Posted by: Peter X. Grey  [URL] - Sep 27, 2007 11:11 AM

I will be 27 on 27th november 2007

Posted by: sammy ben yakoub - Oct 02, 2007 1:46 PM

I am new to this 27 things...uh...I just figured out since March of this year significant things have been happening in my world on the 27th...every month...and it hasn't let up...and if I kept better dates in my notes/journal I am sure that it goes back much longer than March...enough for me to come research the number on the web...

Posted by: Gigi - Oct 03, 2007 4:03 PM

hey! the thing with 27 for me is that somehow I realized I´ve reached a turning point in my life at this age (I am 27 years old right now) and started to thing about the number, the first thing I related the number to is rock n´roll...the dead at 27 club of rock stars(jim morrison, jimmy hendrix, bryan jones, kurt cobain, janice joplin, and a lot more) called my attention and I said, I´ll tattoo this number, it means something to me...after a while I realize my birth date, 15/03/1980, sums up 1+5+3+1+9+8=27!...i dont see it everywhere, because i am not looking for it, but..I read the "characters left" indicator of the message and it said 729...yeah there is a 27 there and 2+7 is 9...whatever, I feel it is a cool number and i´ll get a tattoo

Posted by: gaston - Oct 03, 2007 11:28 PM

My 27 situation started over the summer. At first, I was just strangely drawn to the number, which worried me, because I thought back to when I was a kid, and I was obsessed with the number 49 and got in trouble for it. (Long story.) I was afraid that 27 was going to end up like 49. Luckily, it didn't. But then I just started seeing 27 everywhere, and it would pop up in really odd places--receipts, business cards, commercials, etc. I once spotted a small 27 on the bottom of a girl's t-shirt...

Everytime I see a 27 pop up, I just laugh. It's hilarious!

Posted by: zephyrdoe - Oct 07, 2007 10:49 PM

So i see the number 27 everywhere and all the time. its been going on my whole life. ive always been number 27 in school.. my birthday is on the 27th of november 1987, on my 18th birthday 11.27.2005. my grandpa was killed by being hit by a car while he was walking...my family has crazy things happen to them...from sightings down to "being possessed" theres alot of stories in my family about being psychic as well... quite honestly the number is starting to scare me and i thought i was the only one.. lol if anyone has more info and would like to tell me something ...email me . lol thanks.

Posted by: Chris - Oct 08, 2007 2:40 PM

I've also been haunted by the number 27 for the past few months. Again it's getting more and more frequent. To top it off all my friends have been reading fingerprints of the gods and it turns out that at the end of the world I'll be twenty seven!

Posted by: Rich - Oct 08, 2007 9:18 PM

27 has been with me my whole life. I got kicked out of school on 11/27/05. The next day(my birthday)I was sent to Job Corps where I was hazed all the time. My sisters boy friend Seth O' BRIEN died with pneumonia on 12/1505. Her next boy friend treated her terrible. His address had 27 in it. My best friend lived up the road from me. His address had 27 in it. 27 was my football jersey number. We didn't win one game. My other friend's jersey number was 27. I've lived in area code 207 my whole life. But, what really started all was when i was having the dream same every night
when I was about 10 years old. It was about
my father and I driving off a bridge. At the very end of the dream 27 would randomly just pop up in my head. That's when I wake up. The weird thing is when I was 17 my mother and I was driving over a
bridge on route 27. At that moment when I looked up at the clouds they formed into a cross. Ya I'm watching my back when I turn 27.In 9yrs.

Posted by: brian - Oct 18, 2007 1:25 AM

When I typed the last comment I had 27 characters left.

Posted by: brian - Oct 18, 2007 1:28 AM

A few years ago, when I was in the 5th grade, The number 27 just came into my head. I don't know why, but it felt important. Now, the years have passed, and i find it everywhere.I dont know if it is haunting me or what, but whenever I look at the clock, the number 27 is there. seconds, minutes. The year now is 2007, take away the 00, 27. My book scienbook number has 27 in it,everything in my life, no matter how insignificant, or how major, has at least one speck of 27 in it. I drew a picture on a whiteboard one day, I came back to see if it was still there, but it was replaced ny the number 27. I just checked Wikipedia on the number 27, and what I saw there amazed me. It related to my name, the different numbers, i am watching tv, the number 27 randowmly pops up, the other day I realized that there were 27 nooks in the New testament. Im finding myself using the number more and more, thinking about it. Im glad I found this, It shows me that others find 27 everyday. I found this at 2:27.

Posted by: Xavier - Oct 21, 2007 6:08 PM